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How to get more views on your Literature

Journal Entry: Tue May 28, 2013, 8:31 AM

How to get more views on your Literature

    This article is an exploration of a common question on DeviantART in the Literature community; "How do I get more views?" If you read all of this you win a pony.

    Lately there has been a lot of discussion around the site about ways to expand the literature community and the visibility of literature on the site. It has been noted that a lot of people believe that site changes by the DeviantART team will help them get more attention for their work. It has also been noted in the past that when new features are instigated (such as more html, better thumbnails and stash) that people often interpret whether or not they have a direct positive effect on their own views as a way of telling if the new feature is worthwhile or not.

    It has been suggested that the community and individuals therein should themselves take more responsibility for creating opportunities and maximising potential. So this article is to explore the questions, Do people know what they want? How can they get it? and ultimately whose responsibility is it to achieve your desired goals?

    I spoke to some of the writers who are currently receiving a high volume of attention to help shed some light on this matter.


With the whole CV thing going on, it's way easier to get attention for what should be obvious reasons. (No, you can't apply to the program with this in mind. You shouldn't even think about it that way.) Seniority helped, too; I've consistently gotten more views since my symbol flipped.

Fun fact: 99% of these views have meant nothing. Not that I have a spreadsheet somewhere (yes, it's tempting), but I'm not getting more feedback than I was before. I'm a total statistics whore and love seeing those spikes in pageviews for purely nerd reasons, but what I'm looking for is someone who's going to consistently produce work I want to read, and who will also be interested in what I'm doing. A thought-out comment on one work is great no matter what, but when it comes from someone who knows your style, it's faaaaabulous.

You can do all sorts of stuff to get views, but who are the views coming from? If they're not from people who want to read things, you're still screwed there. You can lure someone to your profile, but you can't trick them into doing anything else.

I think it's really important, if you want to promote yourself through groups, that you be part of the group. There's no incentive for admins to keep a project running if the only participation they get is gallery dumps, not even the prompts or anything. Groups are supporting you, so support them back! And, yeah, try to be an admin in one. At the very least you will make some friends. Real time conversation—any involved conversation, really—tends to lead to some kind of relationship. And having a relationship with someone means you have a better resource for when you're stuck, or need someone to bounce an idea off, or whatever.

    Firstly, you need to identify what you want out of DeviantART. There are a million reasons why you could be here, have you actually taken the time to consider what yours are? Here are some of the most popular ones to get you started;

:pointr:  I want my work to be seen by a lot of people
:pointr:  I want my work to be seen by like minded people
:pointr:  I want help to progress and evolve as a writer
:pointr:  I want to advertise my work and potentially move into the profitable side of writing (by that I mean perhaps gaining a fan base on DeviantART and then self publishing a book and encouraging your fans to buy it?)
:pointr:  I want to make friends
:pointr: I want to read and be inspired by other great writers and let that inspiration encourage my own work

    Identifying what you want out of this site is the first step to getting it. Personally I want a lot of people to see my work, I want to be inspired, I want like minded people to see my work AND I want to make friends. I want it all. There's no shame in being greedy and wanting more than one thing, as long as you take the time to work out what it is you want and which of those things is the most important to you.


"Deviants have two weapons at their disposal when it comes to getting noticed - being good and being active. Either way, it means work for you, slaving over your writing or dedicating time to community activities.

dA is all but a job for me, and that's not even counting the work I put into the actual writing that people come for in the first place. Comment, administrate, and get your name out there. Having an interesting profile isn't a bad idea either.

I didn't start getting attention until I signed up to help admin groups. That combined with my "I'll critique anyone who asks" policy is probably what got me noticed. Basically, If you're willing to help, then there are people willing to help you back."

    The next thing to do is work out your limits. There are some questionable ways to gain favourites on your works. Giveaway of points in exchange for favourites, purposefully staying within the realms of generic statements that appeal to the widest audiences or leaving messages on people's profiles asking them to read your latest work. These are all possible avenues to take if all you want is favourites, but if you are considering these options you need to consider why. What does a favourite mean if you have to beg, barter or pander to get them?

    I am not saying that these actions are wrong. It's about working out what is right for you. If you choose to do things the 'easy' way though you will get a transitory readership that doesn't necessarily establish a connection with you as a writer. So how long will they stick around? Is that important to you? It's worth considering what kind of readers (and therefore favourites and views) you actually want. Is it a numbers game or is it about making connections?

    There are no wrong answers, but it is necessary to consider it because if you want deep meaningful connections but you choose actions that are counter-productive then of course you will not achieve your goal. So as well as considering what you want, you also need to consider how you want it.


If I were to suggest anything to new comers, it would be to be involved in chats and forums.  If you have actual conversations with people, you're much more likely to make a connection with someone who will be interested in your work.  If I want critique, I ask a friend.  And I make most of my dA friends in the #CRLiterature chatroom.

    I joined DeviantART at a time when the literature community was divided between academic and technical writers and emotional writers. I wanted my community to be welcoming to all so I started a chatroom, I ran competitions, I got to know my readers. I left for two years and came back a few months ago, most of my watchers had left DeviantART in my absence and I had to start again from scratch. I have been at the very top and the very bottom here at DeviantART, and I know what works for me.

    I found that the best way to flourish in the literature community is simple, make friends. If you have a thousand deviations in your message center and you only have an hour which ones do you pick to read? For me, I choose to read the work of my talented friends first. There are two parts to that sentence. 1) TALENTED. Literary art is a form of art, if your art isn't good then you can't consistently expect a huge volume of fans. 2) FRIENDS. I read my friends work first because I care about what's going on in their minds. So logic says, make friends.


When my work gets on the front page of 'Popular in the last 8/24 hours' it always surprises me, but this is also when I collect a big amount of followers. I always ignore my follower count, as it doesn't matter when about 5% of them actually converse with me. I try to talk to everyone, answer every comment and try to prove that yes--I am still human.  I spend my time featuring other artists, and finding new literary talent to watch. We are a tight nit group with many diverse styles, but the infamous 'lit community' is my family.

I'd like to blame the sudden spike in attention on my username and not my words. My work is not a product to be sold, but I think a good username can help a person really stand out. I let my words stand for themselves using no real gimmicks like preview images, but I do submit them to groups. Why not take advantage of this great resource; it’s available to everyone, and it's free. Being friendly, commenting on others work and participating in contests—it all goes a long way and is truly worth it in the end.

All of that said, I do not write for the attention or to serve an audience, I don’t think any true writer or artist should; they don’t have to.

    So before we move on, is your work any good? "Good" is entirely subjective, of course. I don't personally judge a piece of literature based on how many spelling mistakes there are, but some people do. Before you hit submit have you checked that what you are trying to express has been communicated in the best way for your audience to understand and enjoy?

:pointr:  Is your idea unique? It might be a broad subject (like love) with a unique set of imagery. It might be something abstract and new. What makes your work worth reading?
:pointr:  Did you proof read it? Whilst spelling mistakes, grammar and punctuation issues don't make your piece 'bad' it can be an obstruction between you and your audience, and you want to make it as easy as possible for them to enjoy your work so that the most people possible can, right? So take a minute to check for obvious mistakes. I am really poor at this and have to focus really hard on it and still make tonnes of mistakes, but that one minute proof read catches more than you think and can clean up your first impression on your reader.
:pointr:  WHY? If you have an unusual layout with indentations or no capital letters; why? Its fine to do both of those things (I do!) but only if you do it on purpose. If you choose to do it because it's the right thing to do to reflect the meaning of your work. Don't drop capital letters out of laziness or because it's currently trendy. You don't need to be trendy, you need to be yourself.
:pointr:  Lastly, would you read it, enjoy it, recommend it to a friend? You always have your Scrapbook gallery if not. You can edit it in the future or just keep it there as a record of something you've written without everyone having to see it. You know that expression "You're only as good as your last game"? If someone came into your gallery and clicked this piece at random and read it and decided whether or not to invest any more time exploring your gallery based on this piece, would they? If this piece doesn't exemplify your capabilities as a writer, then put it away for now.


"Promoting my work is not the reason why I'm here. It is the amazing exchange between kindred minds, the sharing of inspiration, the learning, growing, bonding. DeviantArt became a sanctuary, where I can just be and express myself without worries. I have many different ways of doing that, from literature, to photography, textures/resources, abstracts, to digital art and fractals, and that is, partly, why I have attracted larger numbers of followers.

I don't have any recipe really. My only thoughts would be that it's very important to take the time and comment, participate actively in groups by posting AND appreciating others' posts, to feature fellow deviants every now and then, of different genres and to avoid clutter."

    If you want meaningful connections between people and your work then you have to invest in those connections. You need to get to know people and let them get to know you. You have to talk to them about their work (it is, after all, one guaranteed shared interest you have with all other writers on the site!). You'll quickly get to know which of your friends have spare time if you need something proofread or an in-depth critique and which ones have less time but give you as much as they can. People are valuable, and you have to treat them as such.


"I first started out on this site focused mainly on "pleasing the masses" rather than expanding my writing and improving in it, so around October of 2012 I decided I would change my ways. For me now, it isn't about getting noticed. I believe that just writing and knowing that it's what you do and love is what matters.

My advice to people who want to get noticed more?  Just write. Don't make a big deal about it by promoting your work every chance you get. I've never promoted my work. I've never gotten on a chat room, never had a giveaway, and I don't have a Twitter/Facebook. I just...wrote. And people saw it, and apparently they liked it.

If you put your heart and soul into your writing and just let it get out there, there's a good probability that someone will notice and tell someone else, and before you know've gained a large number of supporters who will be there for you no matter what. At least, it worked for me, and I couldn't be happier with my loyal fans."

    So how do you make friends? The first way is TALKING :D

:pointr: Critiques. Giving and graciously receiving critiques can open up lines of communication between people who are passionate about language. Invaluable friends to have!
:pointr:   Chat rooms. There are a couple of literature chat rooms but often they are quiet, you don't have to talk about literature! Just go and say hi and ask someone how they are. You never know who might end up being a great friend, not just to your work but also to you personally!
:pointr:   Forums. I don't know much about the forums I'm afraid (never enough time in the days!) but a lot of people use the DeviantART forums to communicate and discuss their art.
:pointr:   Commenting. Even a simple "I really like this" can make someone's day and they are far more likely to respond to a comment than to a favourite (it's sad but it's true!) Does this take a little bit more time? Yes, but think of it as a potential investment in the reciprocated interest in your own work. Some (not all!) of the people you comment on will go explore your gallery as a result and you might make a friend there.

Another way to make friends is to participate in your community.

:pointr: Events. The literature community is full of them! Word wars, Poetry slams, interviews. You can keep up to date with events by watching CRLiterature and in particular HugQueen's impressive Lit List which puts everything going on in a simple easy to use list format.
:pointr:  Competitions. Entering competitions can be great fun but if you happen to place in the competition then you get more exposure... but more than that have you considered checking out your competition? Reading other entries to competitions not only helps you shape your work to be unique (and a potential winner) but you might find something inspirational or someone fantastic.
:pointr:  Volunteering. There are groups and projects to run, competitions to judge, chat events to host. You can get involved. You don't need to run a new small project by yourself to be noticed as a valuable member of the community. Why not join an active literature group that is already running and see how your unique perspective can contribute to your community. If you contribute to your community people will be drawn towards you and that in itself increases the chances of your work being seen (but it's also just great fun!).


I focus on submitting to groups, especially those that specialize in literature. Those who look through literature groups are often writers themselves, leading to more critique-like comments and even features. Larger groups, naturally, give a greater audience, although your piece may be ignored or overrun if you submit at peak times. I have found peak times for submitting art comes right before people would return from school, pushing your works  to the front of the group updates. This comes out to be around 2 PM to 3 PM. I have had several people outright tell me in comments that they found my work from a group. On average, I may receive in the ballpark of 400 views in the first 8 hours of submitting a piece after it's been added to 80- 100 groups. This can drop to about 150 views if I only add it to 40 groups. Favorites often follow this pattern as well, although comments vary. Having your work in the "featured" folder brings about better results. This increased exposure on the actual group page, although not too horribly significant, can add up.

Topic can make or break your popularity. Feeding the masses can be helpful to establish a stable fanbase. Writing on topics that are popular, however overused, can bring in an unbelievable amount of new watchers. If you can manage to create a "new," relatively interesting piece on a current issue, you can out-compete the less creative works on the same topic. But, take this advice with a warning: you should never sacrifice creativity for popularity! Don't simply copy what everyone wants to hear; make it new.

I'd like to add a few miscellaneous tips. Remember always to create an eye-catching title. People almost always read the title and the first line, and ignore the poem if it's nothing striking. If you can just find the right hook, you can get most people to read anything. My last suggestion is a bit dirty: don't put on the mature filter. Most viewers on deviantART aren't 18 or aren't members. That means if you have the mature filter on, they won't see it on the general front page. That can be a major drawback that can keep a good work from becoming popular.

    So the question to consider is, right now how do you promote your work? Forget about the creative writing process, forget about the content or the technical skill. What happens after you hit submit?

    The important thing to remember is that DeviantART is an ART site, and artists are responsible for their own brand (their work, themselves). Creation and promotion are two separate skills, I struggle with the latter but I work hard at it because it is equally important. It's great to be able to create something amazing, but it's also up to you to get people to take a moment to notice it.


"I find that members who write struggle to gain more attention than the visual artists because in reality reading takes more time. I wouldn't go as far as to say I have a lot of followers but each and every one of them are appreciated I have a total of 275 watchers. I'd like to say I got them through hard work and determination but in all honesty I don't know how they came about finding my work. My process tends to be writing overly metaphorical poetry at odd times of day or on impulse and people seem to like it. I promote myself though through groups, but occasionally someone will choose to feature my works thus that's how I think I've gained "popularity""

    There are tools you can utilise to help promote your work, all through this article I've had quotes from writers discussing how they do it, but here is a summary of some of the most popular techniques to start establishing a fan base (once you have one, maintain it, but that's another story!)

Let's start with the two biggest features literature can get. DD's and DLD's.

:pointr:  DD's. I heard from neurotype that she only gets 5 - 10 DD suggestions a week. DD's are given every single day of the year. No single deviant can be featured twice within a six month period. This is a huge opportunity for lesser known artists to get site wide promotion, and yet so few suggestions? When was the last time you suggested a DD? Have you ever received a DD? If not, have you ever suggested your best work for a DD? Did you even know you can do that? There is no shame in being your own best advocate of your work. YOU know better than anyone else what you are good at... but if you don't want to suggest your own work then try suggesting other people's. People are always so excited to get a DD and so grateful to their suggester you could make a friend... and maybe one day they might return the favour.

Other tools you can utilise are more day to day ways to promote your work and have less limits and you can actively do them yourself.

:pointr:  Groups. Speaking of groups, there are many. You can go through the groups page and look for the literature groups that best suit your needs. There are ones that are genre specific, or ones that feature anything but have big audiences and can get you seen by them and everything in between.
:pointr:  The last group I am going to mention (although there are LOADS to look out for) is TheShelfLife. It's a small group but what they do is collect links of all published books (including self published I believe) from DeviantART writers. So if you have a book, get on the list. It takes five minutes!
:pointr:  Preview images. I don't use them personally but using a preview image to draw more visual audience members in to reading your work can be a useful tool to get them TO your work, but remember the literature itself still has to do the work.


"When I was just starting out here, I (like pretty much everyone) didn't know anybody. I started posting my work, but I wasn't really here for anything but myself. I went through the "non-capitalized" phase, told everyone it was because it "added more mood" to my pieces...but then I realized I was just trying to fit in, and I've never been one to follow the crowd, so I stopped. Instead, I started being true to myself. I realized that this site would be a much better place with a few friends, so I scoped out my friends' work and started commenting.

Now I seek out new names, new pieces that speak to me--and being a Poetry Admin for DailyLitDeviations, that's easier than ever for me. The best part is, I don't feel like it's really that much work anymore. I get on dA and do what I can to give back to the community. I feature art I love that isn't well-known, interview artists/writers who other deviants feel the need to know a little more about, and at the end of the day, I'm still being true to myself...but it's not really "work" anymore. It's fun."

    At the end of the day, this article mainly reflects my own personal belief and it isn't going to work for everyone, but it has worked for me twice (in 2007 and in 2013). I think the best thing anyone can do to promote your work is for you to invest your time in doing so.

    Yes, there are things I wish that the DeviantART team would instigate to make things easier for the literature community. Of course there are. But there are hundreds of small communities within DeviantART and they have to balance a whole site worth of needs as well as keeping the whole site operational, current and progressive. As The Rolling Stones once said "You can't always get what you want but if you try sometimes, then you just might find, you get what you need".

    I would like to thank lupus-astra, betwixtthepages, DearPoetry, SilverInkblot, halcyonshores, grew-up-a-screw-up, PinkyMcCoversong, insomniaplague, neurotype and LadyofGaerdon for taking the time to share their insight about their work with us. Thank you guys!

    I hope this article has given you a lot to think about. I think in the main there are some big questions for each reader to consider, either privately or in the comments. To make it easy I will re-list the summary questions from each section of the article above and I would love to hear your thoughts both on them and on the comments from the other writers.


What I did is kind of controversial. I joined a bunch of groups. The ones I likes, I stuck with, the ones I didn't, I left. I think people just need to be involved, reply to comments, etc.

Questions for the readers:

:pointr:  What do you want out of DeviantART / What are you on the site for and then how do you want it? (What are you willing or not willing to do to achieve your goals?)
:pointr:  Is your work the best that you can make it; conceptually and in the way its presented (spelling, grammar, punctuation)? Its okay to ask for help, but have you made the initial effort with it?
:pointr:  If you make unusual choices (with spelling, language, punctuation, layout, etc) then are those choices relevant to the meaning of the work? Is it appropriate? Is it necessary?
:pointr:  Would you recommend your work to a friend if you hadn't written it based on the finished product alone (not including artist's comments!)
:pointr:  Is your piece a good example of your skill as a writer / If someone read only this piece what would they think of your skills as a writer? Do you use your scraps gallery?
:pointr:  Who is responsible for getting your work seen?
:pointr:  How do you promote your work after it is submitted?
:pointr:  Do you engage in critiques or commenting?
:pointr:  Do you engage in chatrooms, events, competitions or forums?
:pointr:  Do you volunteer to help the literature community become the kind of community you want? Do you participate in literature groups?
:pointr:  Do you suggest DD's and / or DLD's?
:pointr:  Do you watch and communicate with the literature community volunteers  and active community members?
:pointr:  Do you think that preview images would help you draw people into your work, and if so do you think that your work would get the favourite or the image?
:pointr:  Do you think that you can do more towards getting your work seen before asking for more features from the deviantART team?
:pointr:  Was this article useful for you?



Follow up article:

How to Improve Your WritingHow to improve your writing
In 2013 I wrote an article called How to get more views on your Literature. I wanted to give actual practical advice from people who know, writers established in the DA lit community.The article was (and still is) very popular and seems to have helped a lot of folks so I decided to tackle a different (but way more important question)... how can we make our writing the best it can be?
Because it's great to show work to your friends but self improvement, or working towards a goal (for a lot of us that's a writing career, a novel, publication, competitions etc) is a whole different thing. So I asked some of DA's finest to spill the beans and answer those commonly asked questions 'How did you get so good?' 'Will I ever be able to write like this?' and 'Hi, is this Dominos?' (wrong number).
In How to get more views... I promi

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AlexaTheFox Featured By Owner Jun 26, 2016
These are some very insightful suggestions. I think my biggest weakness is that I'm not as involved on the site as I should be. Yes, I've gotten into the habit of uploading more often and submitting my work to groups, but I don't comment or somehow promote my work or get involved in any community very much. I've speculated that it's like this because I'm afraid that people just don't want me around or think I'm being too aggressive or don't appreciate me saying anything, when in reality, they probably don't care that I'm there or what I'm doing and probably would be grateful for me saying anything at all. I know if I want to be a novel writer someday, I need to get more involved in the literature community on the site.

Thank you.
byronycal Featured By Owner Jun 15, 2016   Writer
Very useful to read, and gives some great insights, too... I'll get to the questions as soon as I have a bit of spare time. In the meantime, thanks! :)
Uranus-seventhsun Featured By Owner May 12, 2016
Plenty of solid advice. It never occurred to me to post lit on here, since DA is first a social site, second a visual art site, and third, a lit site for the writers.  I've seen plenty of rubbish with poor spelling, syntax, construction and character development, even though I have faved a few lit pieces over the years.

I want to get published in the end, but need to build a network, which is what I suck at.  I get comments on my drawings because I've commented aplenty, with the occasional crit.  Friends on DA, however; I have none.  Even devmeets haven't helped.

The other concern is, this site is owned by Google.  How the published deviants handled this, I would like to know.  It's one thing for my drawings to be out there, I'm a hobbyist, it's another for a novel which I would like to get published.

Thanks for taking the time to construct this resource although I may not put my writing here.  Off to check some groups,anyhow.
OreoApocalypse Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Ok, all read. I have a bit of a question here, and I mean, it was kind of answered, but still. Say you think, or know, your art is good. It feels good, it sounds good, to you its good. How do you know its good enough? How do you know others will want to read it? Very few people comment on my work, but then lately I've been getting a bit of feedback from people who seem to know what they're doing, like yourself, and a few others. Either in the form of watches, comments, faves, or just a llama. Hey, if I get a llama, at least that person knows my profile exists. Anyway, what if I feel doubt in how good I think my work is, and I'm not certain anyone would want to read it, just because no one ever does? Does that mean its not good, or could it mean it just takes a certain audience that happens to be smaller in numbers? Of course, it could be both, or one, or neither, but what else?
OreoApocalypse Featured By Owner Edited Aug 24, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
I will read this when I have more time, and if I can get it to center right on my phone.
WestlyLaFleur Featured By Owner Aug 14, 2015  Professional Digital Artist
I'd like to add that you can observe these paradigms at work in the visual art community as well. The different camps of thought seem to be as distinctly and equally divided among popular visual artists here on DeviantArt.
ReemDa Featured By Owner May 25, 2015  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
thank you very helpful!
DarkSideDuck Featured By Owner May 16, 2015  Hobbyist Writer
Quite good.
AiPendragon Featured By Owner Mar 12, 2015  Hobbyist Writer
Like with anything, you have to promote yourself to be seen. The same goes for real life artist, musicians, and published authors who do meet and greets.  

This is great information and I couldn't agree more. It is all about promoting yourself on DA and other websites as well. Thanks for writing this!!
IvoryFeline75 Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
This... Blew my mind...
EveNightsong Featured By Owner Dec 17, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
This was really extremely insightful and interesting. I'm definitely going to keep in mind these pointers :)
buterfligirl Featured By Owner Jul 11, 2014
It was a large read, but it was pretty interesting. Thank you for the tips and I'll try to utilize some of these in the future.
Unearthly-Damnation Featured By Owner Jun 29, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
This will be rather helpful. Thank you.
WorldWar-Tori Featured By Owner Jun 2, 2014   General Artist
:wave: Hello, this has been listed in the latest update of deviousNEWS! Have a great week :heart:
fernknits Featured By Owner May 31, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Where's my pony?  
AllisonWonderland111 Featured By Owner May 16, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
-@ my eyes! my poor little dyslexic eyes!

... guess i won't be getting a pony ;___;
SRSmith Featured By Owner May 12, 2014   Writer
Point Right  What do you want out of DeviantART / What are you on the site for and then how do you want it? (What are you willing or not willing to do to achieve your goals?)
I'm here to get critical feedback on my writing in order to improve as a writer. I'm will to work for it, provide feedback, engage in intelligent dialogue and generally be a decent human being. I'm not willing to compromise my ideals.

Point Right  Is your work the best that you can make it; conceptually and in the way its presented (spelling, grammar, punctuation)? Its okay to ask for help, but have you made the initial effort with it?
I won't waste anyone's time posting anything I haven't proofread multiple times, and I continue to proofread after I've posted, fixing anything I missed in the first twelve passes. It frustrates me when I'm reading something and the writer hasn't cared enough to fix the simple mistakes first, so I'm not going to do that to anyone else.

Point Right  If you make unusual choices (with spelling, language, punctuation, layout, etc) then are those choices relevant to the meaning of the work? Is it appropriate? Is it necessary?
I tend to follow standards as much as possible, and I don't see the value in deviating from the norm just for the sake of being different. I want my writing to be accessible, and doing anything that makes it less accessible is counter productive to my goals.

Point Right  Would you recommend your work to a friend if you hadn't written it based on the finished product alone (not including artist's comments!)
I'm not sure if I understand this, but I don't generally recommend my work to anyone directly. People who follow me may or may not read what I've written, I don't ask people specifically to read something. That said, I've got no issue with a piece being my first version, which will already have been iterated over incessantly by me, or a later version that's incorporated any feedback that I've received. I don't feel any less like I've written a piece just because I've taken advice on improving it. (I think that's where this question was going).

Point Right  Is your piece a good example of your skill as a writer / If someone read only this piece what would they think of your skills as a writer? Do you use your scraps gallery?
My latest pieces are good examples of where I am as a writer right now; they may not be my best as I may have spent a period rusting, but they're not going to be my worst either, as there's a limit to how much rust can accumulate on a spinning disk. I have things in scraps, but only because I didn't want to delete them, and I haven't added anything to scraps in ages.

Point Right  Who is responsible for getting your work seen?
Me, and that's almost entirely based on track record and reputation.

Point Right  How do you promote your work after it is submitted?
I don't actively promote my own work. I'm visible in the community, I try to be helpful and add value to discussions, and if people want to read my work that's great.

Point Right  Do you engage in critiques or commenting?
When time allows, but sadly I have very little time for either most of the time.

Point Right  Do you engage in chatrooms, events, competitions or forums?
Again, when time allows.

Point Right  Do you volunteer to help the literature community become the kind of community you want? Do you participate in literature groups?
I have no bandwidth to get involved in any capacity where I can't manage my involvement or lack thereof entirely on my own without worrying about letting anyone down. That may change, but not in the foreseeable future.

Point Right  Do you suggest DD's and / or DLD's?
Yes, not often enough though.

Point Right  Do you watch and communicate with the literature community volunteers  and active community members?
I try to.

Point Right  Do you think that preview images would help you draw people into your work, and if so do you think that your work would get the favourite or the image?
Images are powerful things, and they can be used effectively to differentiate your work from someone else's when you're one in a sea of icons looking for a bite. Once you're being read however, if your writing isn't up to scratch then all the image in the world isn't going to help you, and if someone fav's a piece because of the image, they're entirely missing the point.

Point Right  Do you think that you can do more towards getting your work seen before asking for more features from the deviantART team?
There's always more you can do before you ask for someone else to market your work for you.

Point Right  Was this article useful for you?

Thanks for writing this, it really was an interesting read. There are lots of great perspectives in here, and a lot of commonality between the views as well, which, while expected, is good to see.
haphazardmelody Featured By Owner May 11, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
I definitely enjoyed this article. And read all of it! I'm hoping for a palimino pony, if that can be managed, please? :D

Although I'm not too worried about being noticed. I enjoy posting, and I enjoy when people comment or add something to their favorites, and I absolutely love discovering new people and then making friends. That's generally enough for me. :heart:
chasingcloudbursts Featured By Owner May 11, 2014  Student General Artist
Still waiting for the pony...
A-Shadow-Rose Featured By Owner May 11, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
Thank you for this! :la: 
Melalina Featured By Owner May 11, 2014  Professional General Artist
I don't really consider myself a good writer. I just do it to see what I can come up with. Still, if I want to take the chance and see what other people think of it, there is some great advice in this journal.

Faving it.
BeccaJS Featured By Owner May 11, 2014   Writer
pst- you might want to update the CVs if you're updating this article :)
WhippedBlueIceCream Featured By Owner May 11, 2014  Student General Artist
Useful! Thank you!
DeniseCroy Featured By Owner May 11, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
Thank for this article and thanks to everyone who contributed ! It's amazing to see how dedicated you are :) 
DeriveAnemone Featured By Owner Mar 23, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
Thanks, this is super useful! :happybounce:
PoetryOD Featured By Owner Mar 26, 2014
ArchangelsDesire Featured By Owner Jan 30, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
Great advice! Even to those who have been on DA for a long time! I will 
probably look back over this for a while, this has a lot of great stuff!
PoetryOD Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2014
ArchangelsDesire Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
No problem!
evil0verlady Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Wow! A lot of useful tips and advice! Thank you for making this! :love: :heart: :heart: :heart:
HugQueen Featured By Owner Jan 21, 2014   Writer
I write for myself, not for the readers. But I still made some awesome friends and I like my 'low profile'. 
FoxofEbony Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2014
This is really informative. I would like to say thank you for making this and to thank everyone who offered such wonderful advice. As someone who join the site to make friends and meet like minded people I found your suggestions really helpful as I hadn't realised there were so many groups out there. I am also really grateful for all the advice on how to help support other artists and can't tell you how much I appreciate knowing how to show the artists who inspire me just how amazing I find their work. You have all offered such brilliant suggestions to help me thank the community which has welcomed me with open arms and allowed me to meet some of the kindest people I have ever had the pleasure of knowing. Thank you :hug: 
Phantasm1 Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
 What do you want out of DeviantART / What are you on the site for and then how do you want it? (What are you willing or not willing to do to achieve your goals?)
I guess I like to talk to people, and looking at others art, I kind of want help with my own, but I'm not very good at giving other people constructive criticism so I feel hypocritical asking for it.
  Is your work the best that you can make it; conceptually and in the way its presented (spelling, grammar, punctuation)? Its okay to ask for help, but have you made the initial effort with it?
I try my best, but my grammar is rather poor.
  If you make unusual choices (with spelling, language, punctuation, layout, etc) then are those choices relevant to the meaning of the work? Is it appropriate? Is it necessary?
I write things how they fall and focus on beats, I sometimes overuse brackets its a product of how I think of it, I'm not sure they are necessary.
  Would you recommend your work to a friend if you hadn't written it based on the finished product alone (not including artist's comments!) No
Is your piece a good example of your skill as a writer / If someone read only this piece what would they think of your skills as a writer? Do you use your scraps gallery? This is specific for something maybe I shouldn't have commented on here
  Who is responsible for getting your work seen?
Myself? I'm in some groups.
  How do you promote your work after it is submitted?
Added them to groups/ I don't really
  Do you engage in critiques or commenting?
I've only done a couple of critiques but I try to comment as much as possible, especially on works without many comments. I have been slipping on it lately though.
  Do you engage in chatrooms, events, competitions or forums?
Not really
  Do you volunteer to help the literature community become the kind of community you want? Do you participate in literature groups?
No well I'm in a couple of literature groups but otherwise no
  Do you suggest DD's and / or DLD's?
Do you watch and communicate with the literature community volunteers (Beccalicious, neurotype & NicBelroque) and active community members?
Do you think that preview images would help you draw people into your work, and if so do you think that your work would get the favourite or the image?
Maybe but I prefer to just have my writing
Do you think that you can do more towards getting your work seen before asking for more features from the deviantART team?
Was this article useful for you?
I guess.
amour-raven Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2014  Student Writer
Excellent and intuitive input from some exceptional literary minds. :lovely: 
PoetryOD Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2014
They are fabulous, I'm so grateful they all gave their help!
KyaniteArcher Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Really well put, will reread more thoroughly in the future. :D
Steve-C2 Featured By Owner Oct 25, 2013
This is a lot to chew on.  I'm going to add it to my collection of resources.

And, for some of my goals, it helps me to think that maybe I need to go beyond the "I want to write a good story" and into how to get it out.

In any event, thank you for sharing.
PoetryOD Featured By Owner Oct 27, 2013
You are welcome! :D
Always-Tea-Time Featured By Owner Oct 19, 2013  Student General Artist
This is a great little guide you have here; you gave me plenty to think about and/or rethink as well as begin to do. 
I haven't started writing recently, but I only recently got serious about my work and sometimes forget that every word counts as a sort of advertisement for myself and sometimes just think, "oh, it's only one bad chapter, no one'll care", so you reminded me that's not the case and I have to take care with what I do. If it's a true passion, it shouldn't be rushed, right? c:
Thank you for making this and for sharing your insight and that of many others for the whole dA community :3 
PoetryOD Featured By Owner Oct 20, 2013
:) I'm really glad you enjoyed this.
marvelousmavis Featured By Owner Oct 19, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
"DeviantArt became a sanctuary, where I can just be and express myself without worries."

that is why I am here too. . . :)
PoetryOD Featured By Owner Oct 20, 2013
AstralFlare Featured By Owner Sep 29, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
This is great. I already commented on your profile for my thanks, but I also wanted to leave my mark here.
I'm basically new at writing seriously. My goals is to have fun. I want to be noticed and have an audience that follows and enjoys my writing. I've been on DA for 2, 3 years now, and I never get noticed very much at all. I feel like my ideas are unique and something people would be willing to read further into, and I even go as far to mapping out every little possible character and lore of my story.
But I still get no attention.
I find it really hard to get noticed in groups, either in chatrooms or else. It's so incredibly difficult for someone like me who is anti-social and is afraid to speak to other peoples. Yes, I have to break that barrier but it's so incredibly difficult.

Hopefully with your tips and such else, I can finally find the motivation and inspiration that I need to carry out my goals on DA.
Thanks a lot, once again. :peace:
PoetryOD Featured By Owner Oct 3, 2013
:tighthug: You are welcome! I have social anxiety disorder so I struggle too, but you have to think of it like a job. You just send out "hi" to people and see if you make a friend.
Goldenbudda21 Featured By Owner Sep 11, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Honestly, I just want to be validated as someone who writes something people like. I think that's why im here.
xWickedxRosex Featured By Owner Sep 9, 2013  Student Writer
This was really helpful <3
dragonmunchy Featured By Owner Aug 7, 2013  Student

Wow! This was really helpful; I'm really glad you wrote this. Thank you! <3 


Because I'm lazy, I'm only going to answer the first question. XD //shot


~~What do you want out of DeviantART / What are you on the site for and then how do you want it? (What are you willing or not willing to do to achieve your goals?)


Personally, all I really want out of dA is a way for me to spread my writing, and a way for others to enjoy it. I really like to make other people happy, to make them smile. I love how people enjoy my work, and it really makes my day when I see how many people comment and/or favorite my work. It makes me feel like, "Hey! There’s actually a person (or multiple people) on the other side of the computer screen who’s actually reading my writing!” To be honest, it makes me feel giddy with joy – I’m no longer just writing for myself, writing for the fun of it, just writing a piece that probably only I would read. I’m now writing for an audience, people who would actually read what I write, an audience who would take time and spend it on reading my stuff. My audience really motivates me to write and write and write, to continue writing for all I’m worth. It’s also just great fun interacting with my audience – I’ve made so many more friends than ever before, thanks to my writing.


Although I do wish for critiques so that I can further improve, the comments still make my day. They may not really be critiques so much as just little shows of support, such as "Wow! I love this!" or "This is great! When's the next part coming out?,” they really do make my day.


Wow, this was a big wall of text. XD Regardless, once more: thank you for writing this!It's really helpful! <3 

King-76 Featured By Owner Aug 2, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
....i dont get what this is sayin.
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